More Lies and Misinformation from Gun Control Australia!!!

"But the fact is that the laws put in place after the Port Arthur gun massacre have been steadily chipped away for decades through pressure on politicians by a well-resourced, well-connected NRA-style gun lobby here in Australia." 

Samantha Lee, Director of Gun Control Australia (GCA).

As I understand it there has been no weakening of our present gun laws in Australia, & from what I understand, the blame for this last shooting where a father shot his two teenage children lies with the NSW Firearms Registry & a certain gun club, both failed to follow proper procedure & because of this a person who should not have been allowed to own a gun was in fact issued with an "H" class restricted gun licence!!! But who will pay the price for this incompetence? Well us of course, the law abiding licenced gun owners of Australia!!! And what are we going to do about that? Well nothing of course, this is Australia not America!

I have in the past started two petitions regarding poor firearms policy that I wanted changing, & very few licenced gun owners could be bothered to sign those petitions. So, the ball is now in your court. You can continue to sit back & say "she'll be right mate" & lose further freedoms & human rights, or you can get off your backsides & start petitioning the government & fighting for our Human Rights!

"Gun Control Australia (CGA)" may well be concerned with public safety, but the problem is that they know very little if anything about firearms, & they can't see past their mandate to disarm law abiding licenced gun owners. Instead of looking at the problem sensibly & using some common sense, they continue down the same path, inconveniencing law abiding licenced gun owners & ignoring the fact that criminals will ALWAYS HAVE GUNS!

Gun violence like any other violence is a societal problem, & it will not be solved with further inadequate pointless gun control. We, the law abiding gun owners are doing all we can, we have our guns locked up, even though it means that land owners can no longer do their job of controlling feral animals properly & protecting our livestock. The predator is long gone by the time we get the gun safe keys, unlock the safe, unlock the other safe with the ammunition, & get out of the house!!! What you could be doing though is writing a decent sensible policy for the control of firearms that works for everyone concerned.  We can't do the impossible, we can't stop criminals from committing crimes, but we could make sure that the penalties for criminals using guns FIT THE CRIME! We could fix all the useless mistakes in the present firearms legislation, & we could petition for some decent sensible self defence laws!!!

People need to stop depending on the government & the police service for their own safety & the safety of their families. We NEED to be able to protect ourselves. Those two teenagers should have been able to defend themselves, their Mother should have been able to protect them, but our present laws made this ILLEGAL!!! Possessing any object specifically for the purpose of self-defence, lethal or non-lethal, is a criminal offence in Australia. There are many women, raped and/or murdered, who would have been liable to prosecution had they been carrying anything that might have saved them.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/an-assault-on-our-right-to-selfprotection/news-story/f743f8b76f21a586a6efb2396c9b2f8d

I suggest you all stop talking about these unjust laws & do something about it. Samantha Lee said we have "a well-resourced, well-connected NRA-style gun lobby here in Australia", she is wrong!!! We don't have anyone who is powerful enough to reverse the present gun laws or to stop further unjust useless gun laws. We need to take responsibility & do something about this before it is too late!!!

Gun Control & Public Safety.

Gun Control.

Intelligent people have difficulty in understanding Australia’s firearms laws. Such as why do 17^th & 18^th century pistols require an “H” class restricted licence for ownership & use? This is the same licence requirement for say a 9mm semi-automatic Glock handgun, there is a vast difference between a flintlock pistol & a breach-loading semi-auto pistol! Then there is the self defence issue, if you experience a home invasion & you & your family are at risk of harm or death, then you will just have to die, because it is illegal to use your gun to defend yourself! One would have thought this was a human right, but no, not in Australia it isn’t!

Why is it that the gun is to blame when people, criminals, commit a firearms offence? Just for argument’s sake let’s assume there is a spate of killings where the tool used is a wood golf club. Now if the government suddenly decided to confiscate all wood golf clubs, golfers would be up in arms, “why blame us for what someone else does with a wood golf club” they would say, “it is the killer you should blame, blaming a wood golf club is ridiculous”! And of course they would be right (I wonder how many members of “Gun Control Australia play golf?), blaming an inanimate object would be a downright stupid thing to do, & yet that is exactly what the government has done in regards to guns. The argument we often get thrown at us by people with no understanding is “why do you need a gun? People don’t need guns! Well if shooters & hunters don’t need guns, then golfers don’t need golf clubs! The fact is that we like our guns; we enjoy having our guns, just like golfers enjoy having & using their golf clubs.

In the Port Arthur shootings (there never was a coronial enquiry, all swept under the carpet!), they say the gun used was an assault rifle, an AR15 caliber .308. The Australian government used this shooting as an excuse to confiscate the guns belonging to law abiding citizens. What guns did they confiscate? Well AR15s had been banned a long time ago; in fact the AR15 used in the Port Arthur shootings allegedly belonged to the Tasmanian Police Department!!! The guns they confiscated were semi-automatic .22 bunny rifles, semi-auto & pump action shotguns!!! These guns were favoured by Australian farmers; farmers needed these guns in their work to dispatch sick livestock & to control feral animals. Controlling feral animals is seen as being one of the important duties of all land owners.

Now we used to be able to carry what was known as a snake gun, this was usually a cut down .410 shotgun to handgun size for protection against snakes. These were banned many years ago. Land owners used to be able to carry handguns for protection against wild boars & stroppy bulls as well as being used for feral animal control. You can still work without any impediment from carrying a hand gun on your belt, but you can’t work affectively with a long gun hanging off your shoulder! Now handguns have also been banned! There was no justification for banning & confiscating these guns, other than to say it was in the interest of public safety! Public safety? These people & these guns played no part in the Port Arthur shootings, & these same law abiding licensed gun owners were not & are not criminals! Practically every day vehicle owners are responsible for killing & injuring pedestrians & other road users, & yet no one blames the car, & the government has done nothing to make our roads & paths safer for the public! Gun owners have to pass a written safety exam & a physical test. All vehicle owners have to do is learn the road rules & pass a driver’s test. There is no safety training to obtain a driver’s licence!!!

Where am I going? Where is this taking us? Well no where good I guess, because unless law abiding gun owners back each other; and by this I mean we all support each other (yes even supporting the muzzle-loader community!!!), then we are without a doubt going to end up being disarmed! The very fact that; Possessing any object specifically for the purpose of self-defence, lethal or non-lethal, is a criminal offence in Australia is a sure sign that our government has no regard for “public safety” so using that as an excuse to confiscate our guns is absolute bullshit, & if that is not the reason for confiscating our firearms, then you have to ask yourself “what is the reason?”.  

(  https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/an-assault-on-our-right-to-selfprotection/news-story/f743f8b76f21a586a6efb2396c9b2f8d  )

Self Defence Laws In Australia.

You are not legally allowed to use a gun to defend yourself or your family. Whatever you do use, you will have to prove that it was a random choice of normal items you had in the house at the time. You can't for instance have a baseball bat unless you can prove you regularly play baseball. You can't have a table or chair leg by your bed to use in self defence. If the assailant has a gun, the best you can do is try & get your family out of the house, but bare in mind they may be in danger outside too! You can use a chair or a kitchen knife but these have their limitations if there is more than one intruder & they are armed. Basically you have a choice, you can either be a victim, or you can be a criminal! 

Possessing any object specifically for the purpose of self-defence, lethal or non-lethal, is a criminal offence (in Australia). There are many women, raped and/or murdered, who would have been liable to prosecution had they been carrying anything that might have saved them.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/an-assault-on-our-right-to-selfprotection/news-story/f743f8b76f21a586a6efb2396c9b2f8d

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION.

This is a sawn-off pump action Breech-Loading shotgun seized by police from criminals, this is what criminals use. They do NOT use black powder muzzle-loading pistols. So why are flintlocks, wheellocks & matchlocks on a restrictive firearms licence? Either it is because of sheer ignorance, or they simply could not be bothered to distinguish a muzzle-loading pistol from a modern breech-loading pistol when they drafted the legislation. None of these pistols is capable of firing modern cartridge ammunition.

Please sign my petition asking the government to take primitive muzzle-loading pistols off the restrictive H class licence & place them with other muzzle-loading guns on the less restrictive B class licence.
Thank you.
Keith.

This is a matchlock muzzle-loading pistol, it requires a smouldering matchcord to make it fire.

This is a wheellock muzzle-loading pistol, it requires a key to wind up the lock, & a piece of iron pyrite rock to make it fire.

This is the most sophisticated of the muzzle-loading pistols that I want removing from the H class licence. This is a flintlock, it requires a piece of hard rock clamped in the jaws of the cock to make it fire. All three of these pistols require black powder & only black powder to be placed in the pan & down the muzzle of the barrel to make them fire.

How smart are you? Smarter than the average law maker? Do you think that in this day & age a criminal would even know how to use one of these guns let alone bother when they can easily access a modern gun?

https://www.change.org/p/12899519/u/22240317?utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_campaign=226711&sfmc_tk=kIvJhmhCg6n4rFH6o1psT6hKqK5Ay0M8zTEiEeeyWhi0a8o%2b50U2pp4A10tu34Jq&j=226711&sfmc_sub=49039519&l=32_HTML&u=41475935&mid=7259882&jb=1

Why Firearms Restrictions?

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Why Firearms Restrictions?

·      Terrorism

·      Crime

·      Suicides

Do restrictions on law abiding licensed firearms owners do anything to stop the above problems/threats? Answer: No

Why No? Because law abiding citizens are not criminals or terrorists & if they want to commit suicide they have other gentler means of killing themselves without blowing their brains out.

How do restrictions to muzzle-loading long arms & pistols effect the above? They don’t is the easy answer. No criminal will choose a muzzle-loading firearm over a modern breach loading firearm to use in committing a crime.

Why are restrictions placed on muzzle-loading firearms by the Australian government if by doing so it has no effects on crime, terrorism or suicide? Good question, & if we could actually ask the government this question & get an answer, it would be very interesting to hear but probably complete & utter bullshit.

Firearms restrictions are based on the premise that they keep the public safe, but to date that has never been proven to be the case, in fact, there is some question as to whether being able to carry a side arm in public may not actually be a deterrent to crime & terrorism.

Let us take a look at the rules in NSW concerning muzzle-loading firearms:

·      Antique muzzle-loading guns do not require a permit to purchase, registration, or a firearms licence. But you are not legally allowed to fire an antique gun.

·      Replica muzzle-loading guns are exactly the same as antique muzzle-loading guns, exactly the same in all respects. The loading procedure, the firing procedure, & the ignition method. All are the same. Replica muzzle-loaders are just that, they are replicated copies of originals. Not breach loaders, not smokeless gunpowder, not fast loading, not high powered. But still they require registration, permit to purchase, & a firearms licence. In the case of a flintlock, matchlock, tinderlock or wheel lock pistol, they require a Pistol Licence, & to get a pistol licence you have to join a pistol club, & to maintain membership you have to attend regular meetings, & the membership is expensive. On top of this you are not allowed to use this muzzle-loading pistol anywhere except on an approved firing range.

Anyone wanting to make a crude muzzle-loading gun can do so in about 30 minutes using a piece of gas pipe. It would be illegal to do so, but it could easily be done. Yet the above restrictions on these primitive guns are supposed to be keeping the public safe from harm. If it were not so serious, if it did not seriously affect people’s rights to recreation through Living History & Historical Re-enacting, it would be laughable. The legislators who pen these laws may well be looked on as a joke, but the restrictions they place on law abiding citizens is no joke.

I respect other people’s points of view, I understand why some people are frightened by guns. I understand & respect their wish not to own or use a gun, even in the defence of their loved ones & themselves. But I simply can not understand why they are unable to look at the situation & understand that law abiding citizens are not the enemy, we are not a part of the problem, and we are not criminals. Treating us as such is unforgivable & an offence against human rights.

Disagreeing with someone is a human right, but spreading misinformation & lies is something else. The Greens, the government & other anti-gun lobby groups are guilty of spreading misinformation, lies & fear mongering in order to achieve further restrictions on firearms & ammunition just to satisfy their own need to control people, to gain some sort of power. It makes them feel good. What then does this say for these sorts of people?

We, the law abiding gun owner are not totally blameless in the restrictions that we suffer. Self-serving organisations such as the S.S.A.A. (Sporting Shooters Association Of Australia) could be doing a lot more for Australian gun owners, but instead it seems to me that they are more interested in not rocking the boat & at the same time lining their own pockets. Individuals are divided, muzzle-loading shooters have always readily backed modern gun shooters, but modern firearms owners are often guilty of hanging us black powder enthusiasts out to dry! I don’t see that anyone is dividing us, we seem to have divided ourselves. When we finally have so many restrictions & possibly even confiscations, then we will have no one to blame but ourselves.
Keith H. Burgess.