Has Minister of Police Rene Hidding, been misinformed, is
he a power mad anti gunner, or does he have the intellect of an amoeba ?
Thoughts For The Week.
Action Needed.
The old ‘news’, but it was good news, was that 25% of the 15 million voters at the Federal election did not vote for the major Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dummer parties and instead voted for Independents and small (more independent) parties. Two million licensed shooters 14% of the voting population helped to make that difference.
Action Needed.
The old ‘news’, but it was good news, was that 25% of the 15 million voters at the Federal election did not vote for the major Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dummer parties and instead voted for Independents and small (more independent) parties. Two million licensed shooters 14% of the voting population helped to make that difference.
The new ‘news’, which is bad news is that we now face the
greatest threat to our shooting, collecting, hunting, competition, sport and
way of life since John Howard used a media knee jerk reaction to impose
his un-informed Gun laws.
Thank goodness, the good old news has placed our
oligarchy (lib lab and Green) in its weakest position in forty years, for the
first time we have a say. They are weak and we are strong.
The latest news this week was,
“The ban on lever-action shotguns with a magazine capacity greater than five rounds was due to expire on August 7, but Justice Minister Michael Keenan said on Friday it would be extended until a review of the National Firearms Agreement is completed and the agreed outcomes put in place. The review of the agreement is due to be considered by commonwealth, state and territory ministers later this year.” AAP.
“The ban on lever-action shotguns with a magazine capacity greater than five rounds was due to expire on August 7, but Justice Minister Michael Keenan said on Friday it would be extended until a review of the National Firearms Agreement is completed and the agreed outcomes put in place. The review of the agreement is due to be considered by commonwealth, state and territory ministers later this year.” AAP.
The worst News.
A Freedom Of Information request was denied by Stephen Bouwhuis, Assistant Secretary at the Attorney-General’s Department from Dr Samara McPhedran, (Senior Research Fellow at Griffith University’s Violence Research and Prevention Program,) who submitted a FOI in March 2016 to access the documents mentioned in a News.com.au article that the government has been circulating since November 2015.
Mr Bouwhuis confirmed the document existed, however refused to disclose it. He said in a letter to McPhedran,
A Freedom Of Information request was denied by Stephen Bouwhuis, Assistant Secretary at the Attorney-General’s Department from Dr Samara McPhedran, (Senior Research Fellow at Griffith University’s Violence Research and Prevention Program,) who submitted a FOI in March 2016 to access the documents mentioned in a News.com.au article that the government has been circulating since November 2015.
Mr Bouwhuis confirmed the document existed, however refused to disclose it. He said in a letter to McPhedran,
“I do not consider that it would be in the public
interest to disclose this document”.
“The information contained in the document was communicated to the Commonwealth Attorney-General’s Department by or on behalf of state or territory governments on a confidential basis, for the purposes of discussions about the proposed agreement,”
“The information contained in the document was communicated to the Commonwealth Attorney-General’s Department by or on behalf of state or territory governments on a confidential basis, for the purposes of discussions about the proposed agreement,”
The Dangerous Document.
Well it seem the cat is out of the bag and the dangerous document is from the Tasmanian Police Minister, who is either a genuine certifiable nit wit, or a cold calculating power hungry potentate. The Tasmanian Minister of Police Rene Hidding, MP said,.
Well it seem the cat is out of the bag and the dangerous document is from the Tasmanian Police Minister, who is either a genuine certifiable nit wit, or a cold calculating power hungry potentate. The Tasmanian Minister of Police Rene Hidding, MP said,.
Has Minister of Police Rene Hidding, been misinformed, is
a he a power mad anti gunner, or does he have the intellect of an amoeba ?
“Having become aware that there are a small number of
firearms registered in Tasmania that have been ruled out under this element of
the law in other States, but had not been assessed prior to registration in
Tasmania, the police were obliged to act. It is a fundamental of responsible
policing that they cannot make themselves unaware in spite of the fact that the
actions occurred over the last 20 years.
For the past few weeks there has been issues with what
constitutes a Schedule 1 Firearm in Tasmania. Tasmania Police are ensuring
there is a clear and concise process established process to define what
firearm, or features of a firearm, that may have been added later, may give
cause for that firearm to need to be reasonably assessed against a set of
subjective criteria. ”
Last week the police send out a notice advising that any firearm with
Last week the police send out a notice advising that any firearm with
1 A pistol Grip
2 A shroud
3 Extended Magazine
4 Adjustable/Skeletonised/Folding Stock
Would be classed as a Schedule 1 Firearm and therefore
would not be registerable, and it would apply across all firearm categories.
Minister of Police Rene Hidding said. “I have indicated
to the Commissioner that, while these matters are clearly operational, I expect
the processes that they undertake from this point on to be conducted in a way
that provides confidence to the firearm owning community that they are being
dealt with fairly and respectfully in dealing with this circumstance. Further,
I expect the outcome to be modest, conservative and broadly in line with the
majority of other States.”
The power he draws this from is in the National Firearm
Agreement of 1996, which has no legislative power (nor the peoples consent) and
has been included in every state legislation
SCHEDULE 1 – Prohibited Firearms. Section 3
The following firearms are prohibited firearms:
1.Any machine gun, submachine gun or other firearm
capable of propelling projectiles in rapid succession during one pressure of
the trigger.
2 Any self-loading rim-fire rifle.
3.Any self-loading centre-fire rifle.
4.Any self-loading shotgun.
5.Any pump action shotgun.
6.Any firearm that substantially duplicates in appearance
a firearm referred to in item 1.
“Appearance” “Substantial” and the word “Duplicates” are
all subjective words which leaves it to a bureaucrats opinion.
So if its a bolt action .22 but it is surrounded by a
cardboard cut out, Its appearance condemns it. Is an item guilty for the way it
looks?
This provision has already been abused on many occasions
by Customs officers and State Police. It gives the bureaucrat the power, he may
hate all guns, he may dislike the person who owns the firearm, he might have
had an argument with his wife that day, he might go the other way and get a
nice Christmas hamper from the importer. We hope for none of the above, but
history has shown it works that way time and time again.
Very few long arms do not have ‘pistol grips’ so judging
a criteria on that basis is terminal for every firearm.
The Tasmanian Police Minister must have an IQ level lower
than an amoeba if he believes that by adding to these three subjective words
above, more subjective words, he can as he claims,“provides confidence to the
firearm owning community that they are being dealt with fairly and respectfully
.”
1 A pistol Grip
2 A shroud
3 Extended Magazine
4 Adjustable/Skeletonised/Folding Stock.
All pistols have ‘Pistol grips”. Most pistols have fully
automatic versions like the Glock. Ninety Five percent of all
firearms have pistol grips and all of those stock designs have been used in
machine guns and sub machine guns.
The part that you grip with your right palm, you know the
bit behind the trigger, is called the ‘Pistol Grip”. Even your Stirling Model
14 can be prohibited by this.
Millions of firearms have a “Shroud”. What does any
shroud do in the firearm context, it stops your fingers getting burnt by the
barrel. What is the difference between the wooden shroud on the AK 47 or the
wooden shroud on a Lee Enfield?
What is the difference between the shroud on an AK 47 or
a Lee Enfield shroud, both stop you burning your fingers.
Most ex military service rifles from the last century had
barrel shrouds.
Someone with logic and reason would say but a Lee Enfield
is not a machine gun, on its own, it cannot resemble a machine gun, they have
already forgotten that it does not have to, in the same way that the bolt
action rifles that they are already banning because they “substantially
duplicates in appearance” is the same as the bolt action Lee Enfield that the
bureaucrat will say resembles the, “The Rieder” “Howard Francis carbine” “The
Electrolux”, The Howell Automatic Rifle” “The Elkins Automatic Rifle” and The
Charlton” which were all fully automatic firearms converted from Lee Enfield’s.
Every bolt action centrefire is under threat as the Mauser 98 was modified by Hugo Schmeisser with his Schmeisser MK.36,III. So to was the American Springfield 1903 with the Pederson device.
Every bolt action centrefire is under threat as the Mauser 98 was modified by Hugo Schmeisser with his Schmeisser MK.36,III. So to was the American Springfield 1903 with the Pederson device.
Mauser Rifles had a “Pistol Grip” a barrel “Shroud” and
were once made in full auto. Of course they called it something else, but
what’s in a name when the appearance makes you guilty.
Never look for logic, or reason, or justice, or mercy or
even law, once a Bureaucrat has the power to be subjective he will in time
impose it to the zenith. The BATF in the USA could be the worst example, (but
I’m sure there would be many like it) in 2007 even declared a 14 inch piece of
string, (a shoe lace) as a firearm part for a machine gun. You will be told if
you don’t like it take them to court. They are protected and have all there
costs paid for and you face bankruptcy even if you win.
Police of Customs only have to go into a shooting book to
condemn any firearm.
Any Magazine extension which assists you in taking out
the magazine will be used to show that it falls into a banned category. A CZ
452 (new brno has one) they won’t have to show that someone in the world has
made a fully automatic model, in government boxing and impositions as soon as
it fails one category it will fail all. In the same bloody minded way they make
single shot air rifles have a safety catch and make sure it has a little bit of
red paint to show if its on, or off, sort of ignoring the fact it cannot be
loaded without cocking the barrel and inserting a pellet into the chamber.
What will our Olympic team shoot with, match rifles have
skelotonised stocks, pistol grips and shrouds.
The Adjustable/Skeletonised/Folding Stock, takes out
every modern target rifle and every shotgun that has an adjustable comb.
How many Browning under & overs will hit the melting
pot over this?
So too goes the little Mossbergs .22, as
some thumb hole stocks have already been stopped from import as the
customs have said they are a Skeletonised stock.
What to do about it.
Best one, is to visit Federal Members of Parliament and Senators for your State, the next best thing is to write to them, the next best is to email and the next best is to sign a petition, and the worst thing to do is to do nothing. Contacting your Club executive leaders and discussing it with them, might be useful, but without the individual contacting his local representative, all the shooting associations together have nothing like the impact of thousands hopefully millions of individuals, because the politicians all know that it’s the individuals that counts on election day.
Best one, is to visit Federal Members of Parliament and Senators for your State, the next best thing is to write to them, the next best is to email and the next best is to sign a petition, and the worst thing to do is to do nothing. Contacting your Club executive leaders and discussing it with them, might be useful, but without the individual contacting his local representative, all the shooting associations together have nothing like the impact of thousands hopefully millions of individuals, because the politicians all know that it’s the individuals that counts on election day.
What do we tell them.
We say, that you, your family and all of your friends are angered by the continual persecution of legislation imposed by his/her political party, and those useless laws are compounded by the bureaucratic implementation of the police and customs that they, their political parties set above us.
We say, that you, your family and all of your friends are angered by the continual persecution of legislation imposed by his/her political party, and those useless laws are compounded by the bureaucratic implementation of the police and customs that they, their political parties set above us.
That it is your wish that the 1996 National Firearm
Agreement be dissolved that long arm registration, and Permits to Acquire
should be disposed of. Suggest that they should not consider any further
impositions such as banning firearms due to appearance not function and if they
did not they would further suffer the electoral backlash at the next election.
At present one seat by election can gain or lose power.
Remind them that with the 2 million licensed shooters in
Australia, we as a voting lobby of 14 % are a greater number than the
traditional swinging votes and can and will decide the future of this country.
We are not organised as yet as a political movement, but it is quickly
happening.
Suggest to them that their efforts would be a lot more usefully employed in preventing un declared, illegal firearms entering the country and to take police out of their offices, out of their cars and put them on the beat in our streets. We would love to see the police regaining control of our suburbs and public transport, instead of best behaved sections of our communities are harassed by street gangs and hunted by police bureaucrats.
Suggest to them that their efforts would be a lot more usefully employed in preventing un declared, illegal firearms entering the country and to take police out of their offices, out of their cars and put them on the beat in our streets. We would love to see the police regaining control of our suburbs and public transport, instead of best behaved sections of our communities are harassed by street gangs and hunted by police bureaucrats.
The Federal politicians will blame the State politicians
and the State politicians will blame the Federal. The Labour politicians will
blame the Liberals and vise versa. Stop them short, tell them they are both
responsible, for more then twenty years they have voted and worked together to
increase our burden. Now it has to stop.
One Nation, and lots of other small parties are struggling to build branches in all populations centres, firearm owners have a network of shooting clubs that have that infrastructure currently in place, it is time that we wore two hats. Our opponents deserve to be well beaten not just stirred. Ron Owen
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There is no Spring without Winter, without Mistakes there is no Learning. There is no Life without Death, without Doubts there is no Faith. There is no Peace without War, without Fear there is no Courage. For without Mistakes, Doubts and Fears there are no pathways to Wisdom.
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E Petitions to Parliament that Urgently need your attention. ENDS 28th AUGUST 2016.
We want to put forward a strong number of people from our point of view please take a minute to sign these properly endorsed Petitions. These are not ‘Change’ that is going to send you a myriad of adverts. This is the Queensland Parliaments site. If we ask for nothing we will receive nothing please give them a vote. ASAP.
One Nation, and lots of other small parties are struggling to build branches in all populations centres, firearm owners have a network of shooting clubs that have that infrastructure currently in place, it is time that we wore two hats. Our opponents deserve to be well beaten not just stirred. Ron Owen
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There is no Spring without Winter, without Mistakes there is no Learning. There is no Life without Death, without Doubts there is no Faith. There is no Peace without War, without Fear there is no Courage. For without Mistakes, Doubts and Fears there are no pathways to Wisdom.
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E Petitions to Parliament that Urgently need your attention. ENDS 28th AUGUST 2016.
We want to put forward a strong number of people from our point of view please take a minute to sign these properly endorsed Petitions. These are not ‘Change’ that is going to send you a myriad of adverts. This is the Queensland Parliaments site. If we ask for nothing we will receive nothing please give them a vote. ASAP.
Corella Range Complex for Gympie
Queensland residents draws to the attention of the House a 24 years-old promise to replace the Victory Range Gympie. The 1999 “Comino Report” (State Government Rifle Range Advisory Panel) recommended that land, in Corella SF700, be excised from the Curra State Forest to establish a regional shooting complex. Due to strong community support and a 50% annual increase in shooting licence applications the Cooloola Range Complex Association was formed with assistance from local Councils. It lodged a submission to the state government in 2003. Two subsequent “Difficult to Locate Sports” reports identified the need for a new shooting range complex at the Corella SF700 site with Queensland Police approving the range safety templates. In 2014, the Minister for Sport, Steve Dickson, gave an “Agreement in Principle” to revocation of the land, with the proviso of answering four questions, subsequently answered in the 2015 Ross Planning Feasibility report. Minister Steven Miles claims they will honour the “Agreement in Principle” but has imposed a ‘five to one’ land swap, (or equivalent in money) despite this requirement being previously waived. The requirement for a ‘five to one’ land swap, (or equivalent in money) was not contemplated in the original agreement and such an onerous requirement is denying the Gympie region of the economic and social benefits of this new facility.
Queensland residents draws to the attention of the House a 24 years-old promise to replace the Victory Range Gympie. The 1999 “Comino Report” (State Government Rifle Range Advisory Panel) recommended that land, in Corella SF700, be excised from the Curra State Forest to establish a regional shooting complex. Due to strong community support and a 50% annual increase in shooting licence applications the Cooloola Range Complex Association was formed with assistance from local Councils. It lodged a submission to the state government in 2003. Two subsequent “Difficult to Locate Sports” reports identified the need for a new shooting range complex at the Corella SF700 site with Queensland Police approving the range safety templates. In 2014, the Minister for Sport, Steve Dickson, gave an “Agreement in Principle” to revocation of the land, with the proviso of answering four questions, subsequently answered in the 2015 Ross Planning Feasibility report. Minister Steven Miles claims they will honour the “Agreement in Principle” but has imposed a ‘five to one’ land swap, (or equivalent in money) despite this requirement being previously waived. The requirement for a ‘five to one’ land swap, (or equivalent in money) was not contemplated in the original agreement and such an onerous requirement is denying the Gympie region of the economic and social benefits of this new facility.
Your petitioners therefore request the House to
immediately excise Corella SF700 from the Curra State Forest, or issue a lease
to the local council for a sporting shooters range complex.
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The next one is in the same list on the parleiamentry petitions page.
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The next one is in the same list on the parleiamentry petitions page.
https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/work-of-assembly/petitions/e-petitions
Category
D for Sporting Shooters.
Queensland citizens draws to the attention of the House Category D firearms that are used in international sporting shooter events are restricted to professional shooters and do not include individuals that would use such firearms in legitimate and organised club shooting events.
Category
D for Sporting Shooters.
Queensland citizens draws to the attention of the House Category D firearms that are used in international sporting shooter events are restricted to professional shooters and do not include individuals that would use such firearms in legitimate and organised club shooting events.
Your petitioners, therefore, request the House to make
Category D weapons available to sporting shooters to be owned, stored and
operated by approved individuals to compete in club organised competitions. It
is proposed that all individuals approved to own a Category D firearm and in
the possession of Category D firearms for the purpose of sports shooting will
keep and maintain a year to year participation record, as well as follow all
licencing rules and requirements that allow sporting shooters to own, store and
operate Category H firearms through their respective clubs, to stay compliant
with Queensland weaponry requirements.
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We have been informed by many of our customers that Owen Guns is the best kept secret in the Australian Firearm Industry. The best service with the lowest prices. We save money by not having to take huge Magazine advertisements so we have the lowest prices for the same quality firearms in Australia. If you wish to shop around please give us a call, before you buy. Phone 07 54 825070.
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