Look into adiabatic fire lighters as well Keith. Fire pumps. I'm with you the ARM Australia "image" defeated the purpose of the entire page, but don't leave, we need voices of reason there.
Thank you, but frankly I can't be bothered these days.I don't need facebook, or the groups. And I certainly don't need the hassles & abusive people that go with it mate. So I am slowly getting rid of groups that are going nowhere, & eventually I think I will leave facebook all together.Sincere regards, Keith.